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the bonus chart is as under from this site-how u got 4500 out of 50 without fresh buy i dont understand-pl clarify
Bonus History
Announcement Date Bonus Ratio Record Date Ex-Bonus Date
30-09-1991 1:2 21-08-1991 19-07-1991
22-06-1987 1:1 - -
22-06-1983 3:5 - -
22-06-1979 1:3 - -
9.06 PM Nov 8th 2009
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Dear Naughty007 well done for research done on the bonus but you forgotten about split from Rs.10 to Rs.1 and transfer of shares of Lipon india limited which was given free of cost sometime in the year 1981. What more dividend disributed by the company over the years will many many times the actual investment.

Since you are data based person can you find any company other than Infosys / Colgate which have given so much return to the investor over the years. Take the case of Tata Steel you see the graph you will find price is same right now as it was three years ago. I don.t know when Marico have rewarded with bonus or take the case of Dabur how much % it it returning back to its shareholder. Now a days you will find that only person who earns from these so called small companies is its promotor and not small shareholder.
10.17 PM Nov 8th 2009
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Shri Naughty007,

Apart from Tata Steel the great Company of India take the case of MRF or 3Mindia both profitable and very high Growth comapny MRF is having EPS of more then 250/- and share price of more than 6000/- has not given Bonus for the last 20 years at least. Now take more 3Mindia quoting at 1600/- + have not given a single paisa dividend for last 18 years. What kind of companies are these when I do not get a proper share from their profit. Promoter is getting salary of more then 50lakh Per Month while shareholder who is holding for last ten years or so does not get any dividend/small dividend. So, what I want to say is HUL/Colagte/Nestle are great comapnies but since 2000 their grawth has slowed down due to competition from local players. But I am very optimistic with the view that with the rise of rural income (due to rise in the price of agri commodities) and rural employment gurantte programe of GOI FMCG sales of HUL will rise sleeply in the years to come.

10.30 PM Nov 8th 2009
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Mr garg,
Have u heard about grapes are sour!!!!!
Yes this naughty007 and some more who r just trying to confuse genuine stakeholders do forget that quality is not arrived in 1 or 3 years... HUL stands tall from last 2 decades, perhaps a bit slow in new strategies but steady in dividend payout and well what about bonus debentures which were allotted some time back... It was a great earnings..
Naughty007 is a big hypocrate... sometimes he is having a short position, he tries 2 break others sentiment and vice versa.... remember naughty007 half knowledge is a crime... get urself updated perfectly about this company and then give ur expert comments... Giving ideas and theory by just going through routine media info and some brokerage calls is like preparing a half baked bread... Eat if u like or else be positive and fair in ur statements.

Answer this 3 questions...
1. Why is hul the last one to crack when sensex went to 8k????
2. why did it out perform sensex when the market started satuating?
3. Why do u buy products made by hul.... now dont deny... every individual is bound to use 1-4 products of hul in routine life...
Simple answer is HUL is a trust of nation..
Its old but u know something old is gold....
Mr garg i agree to your point since i know how fruitfull is investing in hul,,,, perhaps people like naughty007 wants to enter in this script therefore spreading wrong roumours....
regards,
Zubin...( equity advisor of a known brokerage concern )
9.21 AM Nov 9th 2009
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Great comment.

7.16 PM Nov 9th 2009
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Thanks for appreciating my reply to Sh Naughty007. The fact of the matter is this person seems to me a short term investor or a day trader. My last 20 years of experience in the market have shown to me that a day trader and short-term traders have never made any money from the market. A short term trader is always confused and even when he wakes up at 1.00 AM in the morning He sees how DAW or Nasdaq has performed in US. Why I am telling this because for one or two months I was a day trader and made some money but mantelly it is a very difficult Job and Zero sum game. You will loose 5-10 years of your life if you do day trading. Whatever you will earn in day trading you will loose one day. Now a days it seems to me most people are traders with RNRL JAYPEE, RIL IDBI are their favourite sccrips. Nobody is interested in HUL/ITC/colgate/P&G. I don`t know why?

Sh Pvzubin83 I also have compalints about HUL top management, because they are not taking much interest for the growth of the company as ITC is doing. Are you from Mumbai and if you are have you attended the AGM so far?

K. Khanna
9.18 PM Nov 10th 2009
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Dear Mr Garg,
If u notice the trend of management performance and steps taken in recent times to increase the volume growth across categories, it’s a matter of time for bottom line to reflect the same in this coming quarter. As per my view management has woken up a bit late. They realized after godrej and itc started eating into the profits and volume across all categories started declining. As per my data, the profits were good this quarter and it actually dint reflect what it should. Advertisement expenses were 500 crore and that was mainly to capture the lost market share. HUL has got quite average improvement and the upcoming quarter will reflect the same. The dec quarter reqults are always a EPS reflector of strength… As per my predictions if the winter is good than hul personal care will see great strength and Net profit should zoom at 680 crores (10% above dec08). If it crosses mark of net profit than it should stay above 305 on 15 days moving average and further it can see a breakout close to 345-374 range…I am from Mumbai and I keep track of nifty scripts as well as selective mid cap companies.
Tks,
Zubin
12.18 PM Nov 11th 2009
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Hello Zubin,
You have done good anale ysis of the profitability of the company. I totally agree with your view the there is good co-relation between the good winter and the sale of its personal care product. Since I am tranferred from Vadodara to New Delhi some two months ago here I find winter is here in the north for the past couple of days. Further its Pure-it water purifier is doing well in the local market here. The main concern I found is of tea business as I see flood of local brands at dam cheap price than what HUL offers. As far as nifty scrips are concerned I track Asian Paints/Marico/Navneet Publications/Bosch and L&T.

Thanks

K.Khanna
7.51 PM Nov 11th 2009
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